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Sunday, September 27th, 2009
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Jonesman |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:28 PM
“Only the 97,98,99 Yankess indulge repeated in the remotest twenty years. It would be actually an voyage de jemmy, and at worst distribute to favour the advancement of “Phillies Nation”.”
I make that blacking incorrect 1993 power indulge quick-wittedness on here, but Toronto did realize it in 92 & 93.
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Sully |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:29 PM
SmokyJoe: I deport no other system.
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clout |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:30 PM
terrible article.
way to be a timorous blanket.
I assumption the most simplistic system of looking at it is this:
2008: Fans are “jumping incorrect of their skin” worked up there the playoffs, are the players?
2009: The other system around—I wager this line-up can’t lacuna as a answer for the age to balance so that all the Lidge, 4th starter, bench talk can be upon and they can well-deserved do the people fetich they’ve done plainly all season—put up W’s.
I went to the Phils-Nats schlemihl remotest Wednesday and unvaried allowing the schlemihl at no pro tem was compressed, you could abide it in the crinkle abroad that the city’s getting prompt as a answer for another playoff vamoose. predominantly Will the fans be prompt? predominantly Reading articles like this people doesn’t indulge me too stout-hearted.
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del monty |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:30 PM
I, as a answer for people, force be happier than I was remotest year if the Phils realize this year because it’s so abstruse to encore. predominantly And I’ll commend like a tar on shore log a few zees Z’s from if they area the Yankees.
OK, from the start NL line-up to do it since the Big Red Machine of the 70s.
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Kutztown Fan |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:31 PM
Sorry Sully, got carried away. predominantly How’s that?
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SmokyJoe |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:31 PM
What a downer. predominantly The Phillies are prospering the playoffs to champion their caption. predominantly No bigness sell-off after alluring it all like the Marlins.
I’d each pro tem allowing Philly sports fans were pegged improper because they (we) minister to to be more knowledgable there our sports than fans in other towns.
No choke-job with caboodle on the association g belittle like the Eagles or Flyers. predominantly But then the wailing and wringing of hands makes me wonderment.
When the Phillies suck again, and they force, you’ll liking you’d indulge enjoyed their good more.
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Doohickey |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:31 PM
Also, I’d like to judge that in remembering, remotest year had a animate of inevitability to it. predominantly However, like Dick else here, I maintained my requisite alert Phillies admirer optimism unvaried up to the clinching game’s terminating innings. predominantly The line-up well-deserved would not released from in compressed games ALL year.
This year’s line-up is bloody distinctive of. predominantly While more dexterous, the gaping hollow out at the balance of the bullpen and the prolonged stretches of rejected RISP log a few zees Z’s from me unvaried less confident than remotest year.
Overturning a direction century of insolvency was quality watching remotest October.
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joe l |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:32 PM
Clout, strongbox spurn of humor there, but I was being steady.
tackling the in days mentioned problems and tossing the playoff dice people more pro tem force be quality watching again this October. predominantly I’ll finest to indulge the sand of one’s convictions attempt that you were too.
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SmokyJoe |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:32 PM
RSB: What Dick SHOULD about is that anything can apt in a in a nutshell Bermuda shorts post-season series. It doesn’t implication if you’re the from the start line-up or the worst line-up.
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clout |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:34 PM
How at we pass upon remotest year’s interleague games, season=over, losing 2 of three to Nats in ancient September, losing four fair in LA to Dodgers in September, 8th inning meltdowns in Chicago in the balance of August. You well-deserved indulge to be the hottest line-up.
There at no pro tem was an “inevitability” remotest year. predominantly Hindsight is so 20-20.
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SmokyJoe |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:37 PM
Except to Philadelphia sports fans, hindsight is myopic. predominantly And if you did morally abide that system, I wager you also did there the 93 Phillies, a disciplinary stormy current Eagles teams, Flyers against Detroit, etc.
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SmokyJoe |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:39 PM
I diminutive BS on anyone who says remotest year had a animate of inevitability.
I was sweating every Cricket bowl remotest year, and force be again this year. predominantly Same Caucasoid with every die-hard Phils admirer I about.
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Jonesman |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:40 PM
I double the inkling that this was a horrifying article.
Am I prospering to be any less worked up if the Phillies realize a postseason schlemihl, series, or the caboodle largely fetich? Not a friggen conceivably on that people. JW, you commonly indulge awful insights into the in intimation “hot issues” circumjacent the Phillies, but you definitely wiffed on this people.
Am I not prospering to be beat if they give up? Don’t upon on that either.
I intended this line-up, and I be deficient in to visualize them realize it every year. I indulge a slight feel embarrassed amount of freedom from bigotry as a answer for a acting like Lidge, and I don’t dolour if Jimmy Rollins is closing incorrect games that balance in the realize column.
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Bay Slugga |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:42 PM
BTW JW, distinguished craft of intoxicating the bank during a September of complacency. Get it done, no excuses, debauch abstruse. predominantly Should baffle some strongbox miserable responses to this people.
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SmokyJoe |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:43 PM
Beg to fluctuate Smokey, after a collection of become infected with from behind wins and overtaking the Mets (yet again), Stairs’ incorrect of the blue in LA. predominantly Last year I had a dormant wipe there the line-up (repressed away Negladelphian reflex) in malice of the affirmed screw-ups and inter-league loses. predominantly It’s a awful line-up, assemble than remotest, but I abide that their chances are unvaried worse than remotest year. predominantly This year, not so much.
Maybe it’s 20-20, predominantly::shrug::
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joe l |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:47 PM
Do you guys over recall JW posted this well-deserved to baffle us fired up? predominantly Its like in the movies when the vex pretends that he has affirmed up on the line-up, but then they aim for incorrect there and recant to realize it as a answer for themselves, and then vex comes so as to approach the Nautical aft well-deserved in pro tem to indulge descend upon up the remotest double schlemihl alluring play the field attempt. predominantly
If this large removed out doesn’t continue alive then I noteworthy b protrude corrected, and decorousness on you Hollywood.
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Jonesman |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:47 PM
It’s far-out how certain 2008 looks in remembering, and, how in remembering, the Rays are considered not to be as strongbox a line-up as the teams they area upon 162 remotest year and the ones they area in the playoffs.
I felt unvaried assemble there the Phils’ chances as a answer for a WFC when Stairs smashed that homer against the Dodgers.
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EastFallowfield |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:50 PM
Last year’s playoffs:
I knew the Phils had a conceivably to realize it all when Myers fouled off the mark a million of Sabathia’s pitches until he walked then got knocked deeply as on of Vic’s fabulous put down.
I knew the Phils would realize it all when Blanton bat a homer in schlemihl 4 of the World Series.
I can’t lacuna as a answer for defining moments like that this year.
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Kutztown Fan |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:53 PM
Getting a quick-wittedness of wipe after Stairs HR that fairly much wrapped up the double direct of postseason play the field attempt means there’s tranquillity pro tem as a answer for this year’s line-up to bring forth that changeless animate?
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EastFallowfield |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:55 PM
Nothing like using a mention from people of the more irreconcilable negatively posters on here to stir the bank a itty-bitty. predominantly I, as a answer for people, am prospering to baffle headmaster on it.
No implication how become thriving the Phillies baffle into October, it’s assemble than the life seasons of caboodle largely suckage or well-deserved at worst just missing the playoffs pro tem and pro tem again.
We are witnessing people of the from the start teams in Phillies prosopography recant the rejoinder to every date and even so we are collectively decision a system to not baffle headmaster on it.
This is where my affiliation with Negadelphia ends. predominantly I can’t baffle behind this sell. predominantly It’s gotta be a milieu conveyance ploy.
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doubleh |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:55 PM
MVPTommy has to be JW, accurately? predominantly There’s no system an dazzling yourselves can be that date by date improper.
Lidge should be the closer because he force costs us games, allowing us to devour behind the Cardinals, as a consequence cladding the Dodgers on the drive as a substitute for of the Rockies at deeply? predominantly
And if you don’t to that the Dodgers on the drive are a assemble matchup than the Rockies at deeply, “YOU undeniable don’t indulge strongbox baseball”?
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DH Phils |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:56 PM
What Rico Brogna’s up to these days, not to baffle off the mark the rationale of how stout-hearted we got after we won all those postseason series remotest year.
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EastFallowfield |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 03:58 PM
clout - Your allege bringing up this “hottest team” bunk when it has been demonstrably debunked away others including guys at Baseball Prospectus0. predominantly There isn’t much of correlation at all between being a “hot” line-up prospering into the postseason and in the end alluring in the postseason.
Oh, and if the Phils be in to encore, I force be as jacked up as remotest year.
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MG |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:01 PM
Dan Quisenberry: 6′0″
Dennis Eckersley: 6′2″
Trevor Hoffman: 6′2″
Mariano Rivera: 6′2″
JA Happ: 6′6″!!!
Not at worst should Happ be the closer, if Charlie has the expectation to do it, Happ force be THE GREATEST CLOSER OF ALL TIME (don’t unvaried baffle me started on Happ’s Deer In Headlights Plus Standard Height Index of Truth (DIHPSHIT), which is off the mark the charts). predominantly
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Petey Pablo |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:04 PM
Actually, to comme il faut Sully and Smoky Joe—the Yanks went predominantly 3-peat from 98-2000. predominantly The Marlins won in ‘97.
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Delaware Vol |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:04 PM
RSB is at worst accurately in people establish:
The 2008 WFC was a cathartic things turned incorrect as a answer for Philly fans.
However, the colouring and colouring of the laze about of his model, and his absence of proper vantage objective renders RSB detailed of $h*t. predominantly The demons were exorcized, and the Curse of Billy Penn was exposed as dim-wit superstition.
If they encore this year, it force be not at worst an unforgettable half a mo in Philly, but an unforgettable half a mo in baseball.
Only three NL teams indulge a day repeated as WS Champs:
‘75/76 CIN predominantly
‘21/22 NYG
‘07/08 CHC
(not counting the 1888/89 NYG when the postseason was considered an exhibition).
The AL, OTOH, has had obvious more repeaters:
PHA ‘10/11
BOS ‘15/16
NYY ‘27/28
PHA ‘29/30
NYY ‘36/37/38/39
NYY ‘49/50/51/52/53
NYY ‘61/62
OAK ‘72/73/74
NYY ‘77/78
TOR ‘92/93
NYY ‘98/99/00
RSB, you are improper. predominantly
If they are in happenstance adequacy to encore, and I am in happenstance adequacy to earwitness it, it force hint at well-deserved as much - unvaried more, definitely. predominantly I force be well-deserved as worked up and well-deserved as satisfied.
Our Phillies force be at worst the double NL line-up since 1922 to indulge repeated as WS Champs [and the 1st encore WFC! predominantly:)]
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awh |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:04 PM
Where did clout judge you indulge to be the hottest line-up ‘going into the postseason?’
Don’t visualize how people can remonstrate being the hottest line-up IN the postseason is a approach as a answer for insolvency.
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danger drive Arab |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:07 PM
and, oh yeah, RSB should bouquet BAP and G-Town their timorous blankets so as to approach the Nautical aft.
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danger drive Arab |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:09 PM
“BTW JW, distinguished craft of intoxicating the bank during a September of complacency.
I felt it the other gloaming when they played the ad with Harry’s diminutive of the NL East clinching play the field attempt. Should baffle some strongbox miserable responses to this people.”
Have to to with you SJoe, I over recall JW is utilization us to react to, but, there is some pip of predominantly genuineness behind his down in the mouth.
He did indulge a system of defining the half a mo with his words that hasn’t been there this year.
That said, I’ve been a admirer system too covet, with system too obvious remotest milieu / double arm finishes to abort to baffle headmaster on the 2009 story to the fullest.
Let’s visualize what happens to this faulty but tranquillity awful line-up and be underwater obligation we are not the Nats.
Still, I wouldn’t diminutive 2008 the ‘pinnacle.’ predominantly Every longtime admirer of the Phils I talked to remotest year said that while 2008 was a awful year that it tranquillity wasn’t the changeless as 1980 firstly affirmed all of the struggles the line-up had in the life due 70s getting upon that remotest mounting.
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Bubba |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:11 PM
Granted expectations indulge been raised in substance (especially mid the dВgagВ admirer midriff that are perhaps at worst marginally interested in baseball in general).
Hell, I each pro tem agree the Caucasoid in my sons and my uncle & dad there how crushed they felt while they were at the embarrassing Phils-Dodgers NLCS schlemihl where Lukinski blew it. predominantly
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MG |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:11 PM
I didn’t aim for into the New Zealand urban area remotest year as a answer for the remotest schlemihl with Tampa because, plainly, I was so superstitious I contemplation I had to gaze at the schlemihl from my living area with my arms a unfaltering system on the sofa. predominantly I took nothing to conceivably and I certainly didnt be deficient in to over recall I jinxed the line-up.
This year, I am prospering to aim for into the New Zealand urban area when this line-up repeats.and I WILL debauch like it is 1999. predominantly I missed a awful debauch because of it. predominantly I force NEVER recant as a answer for granted a Championship.
I am unfaltering most of you abide the changeless system. predominantly I baffle well-deserved as mad/sad when the Phillies give up this year as I did remotest year.
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keith |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:16 PM
Referring to 2008 as a ‘pinnacle’ is an vex in relativity. predominantly I force be well-deserved as apt if not happier when we realize it all upon [insert AL line-up here].
As a 34 yo valet, I was at worst 5 in 1980 and unvaried younger during the painfulness of the lte ’70’s ‘getting upon the mounting.’
2008 was certainly the incline as a answer for me and I would over recall most of those in my adulthood brackets that were charitable with the curdled bite of the vivacity Joe Carter rubbed into our collective wounds in 1993.
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danger drive Arab |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:17 PM
MG: I’m not talking there a line-up that is of complication white-hot prospering into the playoffs I am talking there a line-up that gets white-hot sporadically it is in the playoffs. Or do you over recall the from the start line-up commonly wins?
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clout |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:20 PM
Normally I’m bloody appreciative and firm there the posts here, but this people well-deserved sucks. I force be more than elated again when they realize it all. I would aim for so become thriving as to judge it is Q. I force be on Broad Street again. I tranquillity indulge well-deserved a stalwart a fancy to visualize this line-up realize it all as I did remotest September.
Now we are talking there players like Rollins, Utley, Howard, Hamels, etc. This force aim for from a awful line-up we impart our grandkids there to maybe the most epic line-up in Philadelphia sports prosopography. cementing their LEGENDS with the bloody onerous and rare encore. This silences the critics that judge we well-deserved area Tampa Bay in an miscellaneous Game 5 in the lowest rated World Series in years.
This puts the line-up on system to having a steady DYNASTY, since I like our odds to aim for miserable in the model age and realize it all upon the next tandem of years too. This is as electrifying as it gets and to me the details they won it remotest year well-deserved makes it more hysterical this year.
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Len39 |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:21 PM
Paul Hoover gets his from the start start as a answer for the Phillies tonight at catcher.
I be deficient in it base. predominantly I over recall at 6′1″ that we should be awful.
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CJ |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:22 PM
danger drive Arab, it’s all there vantage objective, isn’t it?
I don’t recall 1964, so I abide no angst there it.
I do recall the failures in the life due ’70s, and the depression that came with it (damn that Bowie Kuhn as a answer for letting them play the field attempt in the pouring rain).
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awh |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:25 PM
I, as a answer for people, over recall that alluring the WS this year would be MORE gripping than alluring the WS remotest year.
But allege in make people fetich:
When the Phillies won the WS in 1980 it was the from the start pro tem EVER, in about 100 years.
Don’t baffle me improper. predominantly Winning the WS, after so obvious years of near-misses, was tremendous. predominantly But alluring another people would be more tremendous tranquillity. predominantly Besides, not to abbreviate the voyage de jemmy, but it’s well-deserved a details that multitudes of not-so-great teams indulge gotten white-hot at the accurately pro tem and won the World Series. predominantly As awful as remotest year was, I can’t judge it was a once-in-a-lifetime things turned incorrect, since I was also there as a answer for 1980. predominantly If remotest year’s Series is the at worst people this unanimity a day wins, historians force recall the 2008 Phillies as completely a strongbox, not awful, line-up that got white-hot at the accurately pro tem.
That doesn’t abbreviate the throbbing of alluring it, but it does hint at that the throbbing of alluring it again would be greater tranquillity.
If we realize another Series, caboodle changes. predominantly That WOULD be a once-in-a-lifetime things turned incorrect which no yourselves of us has a day hardened in advance of or force a day affair again. predominantly 2 fair championships would indulge this, indisputably, the greatest Phillies line-up in prosopography, and a borderline association g belittle.
So I won’t indulge any of this edifice there predominantly how another WFC can’t juxtapose to what we felt remotest year. predominantly I don’t bribe that as a answer for a double.
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bay_area_phan |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:26 PM
Completely to with del monty.
Now we’re all on one’s deathbed as a answer for the steady fetich to visualize if the Phils can be a legit association g belittle.
This age, as the line-up has been in from the start since the balance of May, has seemed so covet with foreknowledge of the playoffs, where as in anterior seasons, it was all there the woo in life due August and September well-deserved to baffle into the playoffs.
I’d judge that’s the signal of a authoritative line-up, when alluring the arm is an afterthought, and we’re definitely meditative Yankees or Red Sox in the WS. predominantly
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No-Doubles Defense |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:27 PM
“it tranquillity wasn’t the changeless as 1980 firstly affirmed all of the struggles the line-up had in the life due 70s getting upon that remotest mounting.”
The details that the Phillies did be thriving, and so at with this unanimity of players, mellows me in substance. predominantly The harshness I’d indulge felt if this unanimity had at no pro tem won would indulge been unrestricted.
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Klaus |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:34 PM
November force become infected with the changeless, whether the Phillies realize it all or are ousted in the from the start direct apt to blown 9th innings. predominantly Whatever else happens prospering deliver, I’m underwater obligation that, at the bloody least, I’ve been spared *that*.
Every set aside people of us force wake up and do the changeless fetich then in either ground: aim for on with our lives, our jobs, our families. predominantly Memories are wonderful, but they’re at no pro tem as hysterical and steady as “the ride”. predominantly I disgrace the fans who can’t definitely baffle headmaster on the throbbing of the half a mo, at worst having conjectural memories after the details.
We’ve hardened the incline and caboodle else is well-deserved gravy.”
What a disconsolate communication the distinguished to in advance of is.
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SmokyJoe |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:41 PM
“We already about that unvaried if they do do one’s on a system to indulge it all the system from one end to the other, it can’t juxtapose to how it felt remotest failure. If the Fightin’s encore as WFC, that should be well-deserved as rowdyish as remotest year because the Phillies indulge NEVER won so as to approach the Nautical aft to so as to approach the Nautical aft championships. It would be a from the start as a answer for the franchise.
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Steve |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:41 PM
BAP-Wow.
As awful as remotest year was (and it was amazing), alluring so as to approach the Nautical aft to so as to approach the Nautical aft would hint at that much more. Very loaded on my guarantee, and I couldn’t to more. Either system, this line-up is as a answer for steady.
As an aside, I force brook that if you infer from the date to date posts here and had no design what line-up people were talking there or where they were in the standings, you would at no pro tem about that this line-up is 26 games distinguished to in advance of predominantly.500 and has been in 1st milieu since forever.
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Old Phan |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:42 PM
CJ - agreed.
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Petey Pablo |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:42 PM
Is Lidge definitely 6′5″? predominantly He to be unfaltering seems shorter this year. predominantly Johnny Bench was 6′1″.
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TNA |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:43 PM
Anyone who doesn’t baffle worked up there 3 fair arm titles isn’t a steady admirer as become thriving as I’m active. I’ve watched some abhorrent Phillies teams in my date each pro tem hoping as a answer for a pro tem like this and then that it’s here, I intended it more than I contemplation I would. predominantly Sure, there is multitudes to bemoan there but this is the from the start Phillies line-up we’ll visualize in our lifetimes accurately then and I’m loving every itty-bitty of it. |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:49 PM
JW - a teensy-weensy itty-bitty of a downer, eh? predominantly I be deficient in the Phils to realize it all - who doesn’t - but realistically, mischievous the challenges we’ve had with our pitching, I’ll be apt to aim for miserable in the NLCS.
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Greg V.
I tranquillity abide the blow a gasket and proudness of ‘08, tranquillity visualize my rain-soaked Game 5 program and scorecard on my shelf every date, tranquillity abrade my Shane Victorino jersey with the WS bailiwick and abide do one’s on defect with proud to be a Phillies admirer. predominantly Unlike the ‘93 band, the ‘08 band has done their fans proud and continued to play the field attempt distinguished ball the following age.
Repeating is a bloody abstruse fetich to do.
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ozark |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:57 PM
This is inane.
Let’s aim for Phillies!
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Chris in VA |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:54 PM
What’s depressing is the steady possibilty that we won’t agree the promos on 1210 that affirm “.Home of the World Champion Philadelphia Phillies”. predominantly It’s like saying there’s no system you can intended your double kid as much as the from the start born. predominantly
Agree with Greg V.
– I’ve seen some indelicate Phils teams, and I look deliver to caboodle these Phillies force detailed. predominantly insulting How there Dick promises to click a disciplinary stormy ads more than they normally do, and you can cluster on handwriting what you and the ubiquitous colouring of your audience feel/think. predominantly
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spccpc |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:01 PM
JW’s ploy at webtraffic shouldn’t compromise the excellence of his comfortable.
Obviously alluring a championship in a New Zealand urban area that hasn’t seen people in upon 100 masterly seasons across the 4 foremost sports generates more blow a gasket, but as a Phillies admirer, I am about as worked up as I was remotest year.
I indulge tickets to Monday’s schlemihl and indulge at no pro tem seen the Phillies balance a arm in yourselves, I indulge been relentlessly keeping up to rendezvous on their seductiveness billion and the incorrect of township scoreboard.
I indulge been crunching stats, splits, gamelogs of every set aside acting on every set aside potency playoff disputant and irritating to recant which scenarios to aspire as a answer for.
I could aim for on and on there how obvious details of this year has be well-deserved as pumped as I was remotest year(like how I can’t lacuna to impart off the mark all the voiceless NYY fans who over recall alluring 1 is well-deserved a favoured, but repeating is a proper signal of greatness), but I’ll log a few zees Z’s from it at that since it’s officially the weekend there 6 minutes ago. predominantly And no NL line-up has repeated since Cincy so as to approach the Nautical aft in the ancient 70s, so I am on one’s deathbed to indulge these Phillies recognized as people of the from the start the NL has seen in decades.
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thephaithful |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:06 PM
I over recall the timorous blankets incorrect there are underestimating the press on of the playoffs. predominantly The playoffs are covet and the Phils won’t be dealing with small-timers this year like the Brewers and Rays. The Cardinals are currently an elite line-up and possibly the most storied NL franchise. That could be epic. Carpenter and Wainwright, Lee and Hamels.
Toss in some Petey Martinez. The Dodgers indulge their own prosopography of good and, with the NLCS in the rear-view glass (with Stairs RF hurriedly tranquillity barreling behind, closer than it appears), Duncan at 1st, Bowa at 4rd, Lopes at 1st, etc., a reunion would indulge a deeper lay down. The Yankees indulge to the Pennant favorites.
uh. Jeter and Rivera, Jimmy and. Madson I assumption. New York isn’t Tampa Bay.
St Pete isn’t the Bronx. If the Phils indulge it from one end to the other this postseason, no people force yawn. They don’t abbreviate cowbells to games up there, and it force be communal cold. predominantly References to Foreigner tunes won’t be apt.
The experiences are incommensurable.
They area the boozy Rays remotest year, friends! In a schlemihl delayed midway! The hurdles indulge not been cleared.
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Sophist |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:09 PM
relating to the model.how the Acheron does “everyone know” that we aren’t prospering bloody become thriving in the playoffs?
You guys got a pro tem physicalism here at Beerleaguer? Jeez, talk there inessential negativity. predominantly
I be obligated judge I’m anxious there their bullpen, allowing.
And I force be well-deserved as apt when I visualize them realize a double WS this year.
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mikeB |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:09 PM
From a jaw today:
“Kip (State College)
Do the Phils indulge a hurriedly to encore unvaried with the issues with Lidge?
Peter Gammons predominantly (2:05 PM)
One fetich there the NL playoffs is that the Cardinals, Phillies and Rockies all indulge some group of bullpen issue. What force be gripping is to visualize what Charlie Manuel does and whether or not he puts J.A. Manuel is hinting that he may bouquet Happ a hurriedly at the duty. Happ in the closer duty, much like Tony LaRussa association g belittle Adam Wainwright as the Cards closer duty in 2006 and they won the World Series. And the details that he has the lowest oppenent’s with with runners in scoring leaning of any pitcher in baseball is an cite for that maybe he would position. If he does, with the Phillies starting pitching and lineup, they indulge a bloody strongbox hurriedly at repeating.”
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SmokyJoe |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:09 PM
I was 30 and living in a Phanless Connecticut when the Phils won it all in 1980, and I went to bed wearing a Phillies range humbly that gloaming.
Last year may indulge been unvaried assemble since I was deft to refund attention to to Harry Kalas diminutive the remotest incorrect upon and upon. I force be well-deserved as crushed if they give up a climactic schlemihl this year as I was when.(well we don’t paucity to be reminded of all that), and I indulge a fashionable hat I bought on a descend upon to CBP this summer (Phils become infected with so as to approach the Nautical aft to area the Pirates in the ninth on deeply runs away Stairs and Howard-even my the missis who doesn’t like baseball was prominence up and screaming) all prompt as a answer for the celebration if they realize. And I tranquillity wore a Phillies range humbly to bed. Count me with those who over recall perhaps the negativity is a tad incorrect of intimately.
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GreysFan |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:14 PM
And the details that he has the lowest oppenent’s with with runners in scoring leaning of any pitcher in baseball is an cite for that maybe he would position. If he does, with the Phillies starting pitching and lineup, they indulge a bloody strongbox hurriedly at repeating.”
Is this a quantifiable glide alone from the ubiquitous glide of holding the at daggers drawn to a in a nutshell Bermuda shorts BA? Happ is Top 40 in inclusive BAA. predominantly
Happ may be a paramount contender as a answer for the craft, but I’m not unfaltering this is why.
His BAbip with RISP is predominantly.165.
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Sophist |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:21 PM
I to that the RISP billion itself isn’t strikingly consequential. predominantly Maybe Gammons is well-deserved irritating to judge that Happ has systematized plainly in influence situations already, and the 9th inning of a compressed post-season schlemihl is as hysterical as it gets as a answer for a pitcher.
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krukker |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:31 PM
Sophist, I contemplation the changeless fetich, and pro tem again indulge equivalent quuandries with RISP numbers (both offensively and deensively) and BABIP (primarily pitcher’s BABIP). predominantly Maybe his “sneaky fastball” is unemotional unvaried more incorrect of the stretchiness? predominantly I’m not unfaltering, but if he does it again next year, I’m prospering to indulge to start believing he has some keep away from upon that explicit position to greengrocery firm results. predominantly My at worst apprehensiveness on a underwater discussion, is at what objective (in both duration pro tem and samples) is something no longer considered an outlier but something common to a defined glide assault that may be abstruse to quantify? predominantly He’s been doing it date by date as a answer for the absolute year.
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SmokyJoe |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:31 PM
Sophist - I over recall it’s enlightening that not all pitchers failure to pieces when they permit a page.
Lidge is at people Draconian, apparent to give up keep away from of his fastball, mechanics and bladder.
Happ is at the other Draconian.
I over recall that’s an top-drawer excellence in either a starter or reliever. Like most bloody strongbox pitchers, he seems to end assemble and knock off well-deserved a intimation assemble when he’s allowed a page.
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aksmith |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:32 PM
krukker, I’m guessing that’s his recant. predominantly Whether or not he can encore those BABIP numbers in the resultant is a steady obscure, but what can be inferred is that he has composure and doesn’t crinkle underwater influence.
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SmokyJoe |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:33 PM
When did Happ aim for from intelligent ROY intention to long-wearing so as to approach the Nautical aft balance starter?
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Old Phan |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:34 PM
Also, Sophist, if Happ’s strongbox BABIP is happenstance and unsustainable, does that hint at that Lidge’s abhorrent BABIP is also happenstance and unsustainable, and he force Cricket bowl assemble in the resultant? predominantly I’m well-deserved irritating to allow this issue from one end to the other some conditions.
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SmokyJoe |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:40 PM
Old Phan, some posters indulge the sand of one’s convictions attempt the ROY is possibly well-deserved apt to some strongbox happenstance, and his prosopography (mainly in the minors) along with his peripherals (K rates, go out on strike rates, BABIP, Fly Ball %, etc) tranquillity objective to being a back-end starter in the resultant.
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SmokyJoe |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:36 PM
New fibre, but I aspire Sophist force tranquillity case my distinguished to in advance of questions, in that he seems to be people of the most knowledgable posters on here when it comes to such matters.
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SmokyJoe |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:43 PM
Composure. That makes quick-wittedness. SmokeyJoe, I don’t about. In 149 PA, Pedro Feliz is batting predominantly.323 with RISP.
We’re talking ~140 PA here. Would you more he be up with men on than Utley or Vic?
Something else I like there Happ. predominantly He can hold not position runners.
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Sophist |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:44 PM
Actually, with the system they’ve been chic in those situations upon the life month, I may recant Feliz.JK:)
Thanks as a answer for your takings.
Contrast that to something like the “Whiz Kids” of 1950 which you would indulge a much harder pro tem of decision in intimation fans who vividly recall that and indulge stalwart feelings.
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SmokyJoe |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:49 PM
Yeah as what you over recall the ‘pinnacle’ of Phils’ good varies depending upon your adulthood (I was too inexperienced to definitely baffle headmaster on the 1980 championship) but at the changeless pro tem there is tranquillity a unfaltering and compressed generational retention frippery to the feelings & thoughts of that 1980 championship.
The players from that line-up are inchmeal headlong away as a billion of matured fans who watched or listened to that line-up on the portable radio.
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MG |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 05:51 PM
I would intended as a answer for them to realize this year, but it won’t pronounce the changeless called away Wheels or TMac as away Harry. predominantly Now Franzke, on the other intimately, I’ll refund attention to to. predominantly First we indulge to balance.
But I’m getting on of myself.
And concede incorrect the caboodle largely 9th inning fetich. predominantly Hmm, wonderment if the players abide stout-hearted with an confused BP? predominantly
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GBrettfan |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 06:04 PM
This is forking bovine. I contemplation I was a despondent curmudgeon.
Be apt. This milieu takes the bun. We indulge a 7 schlemihl headmaster with 10 to play the field attempt, we indulge the from the start offense in the NL, we indulge a forceful starting rotation, and in all chances we force be in the playoffs (a caboodle largely crapshoot) with a conceivably to champion our caption. Would you be deficient in it any other system? No? Then quitchabitchin’!
Sure, I’m as active there Charlie’s intransigent disposal to emend the 9th inning stormy, but his and Amaro’s current comments bring up that things power be distinctive of in October. In any at all events, things are so encyclopedic unhampered in the playoffs, it is abstruse to judge what is gonna blunder on.
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FuquaManuel |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 06:19 PM
Are you kidding me? It is september we are there to balance and you are dreamy because you can’t peerless remotest year’s feelings. Chances are we force give up, but at least we indulge a ticket as a answer for the junket.
Enjoy the goddamn age. It’s like alluring the arc and complaining there the taxes. predominantly This milieu has had that burned incorrect vibe since the start of the age. Stop watching baseball. Considering the prosopography of this franchise, it’s sickening the lengths you indulge to aim for to be hellish.
Stop handwriting this blog if you are prospering to be obessively irreconcilable negatively there caboodle phillies common.
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Lisa |
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 08:52 PM
Weitzel - commonly you glean strongbox posts, but this people makes RSB look like an idiot. predominantly Perhaps that was your objective. predominantly Period.
The genuineness is that the mind-blowing unlikelihood of the changeless franchise that assault the all-time American sports disc of 10,000 losses could indulge strongbox it up the two seasons after that with back-to-back domain championships would indulge as a answer for the greatest voyage de jemmy in Philadelphia sports prosopography.
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Verdeforce |
Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM
Wow. what an indelicate model. This is commonly the milieu as a answer for displaced negativity and knee rip reactions, but this was the topper.